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Make your own banjo pickup

Posted by Bing Turkby on 14 Jul 2010 02:42

As promised some time ago, here are my instructions for making your own banjo pickup.

DISCLAIMER – if you're not sure about doing this and don't want to damage a precious instrument, DO NOT do this stuff yourself.


If you want to play your banjo through an amplifier or PA system you'll either need a microphone or pickup. I don't like using microphones because I play quite loud and microphones can tend towards feedback at high volume. So I looked into buying a pickup. There are a few models around, but most people seemed to say that a cheap one can cause trouble and a better one gives you a more natural sound. The best one I could find was a twin piezo system. Piezo pickups sense vibrations (in this case, the vibrating banjo head) and convert the vibrations into electrical signals that you can send to an amplifier. The 2-piece ones mean that you can have a good balance between the bass and treble strings on your instrument. But I couldn't really afford one of these nice units. Luckily, one day I remembered that a microphone is just a speaker in reverse, and I wondered if the same is true of transducers. It turns out it's true. So the piezo buzzers that you can buy really cheap at your local electronics store (roughly NZ$5.00 each) can also be used in reverse to capture your sound and send it to an amplifier!
So now all you need is an audio jack socket (I used this kind of thing: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Jacks/Switchcraft_Output_Jack.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=298), some wire like this single-conductor stuff: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Supplies:_Wire,_cables/Shielded_Guitar_Circuit_Wire.html?tab=Pictures#details (although I used some non-shielded stuff I had lying around), a soldering iron and a hot-glue gun.
I did the whole project for about NZ$10.00 and it actually sounds pretty good!

DISCLAIMER again – if you're not sure about doing this and don't want to damage a precious instrument, DO NOT do this stuff yourself.

If you decide to proceed...
Firstly you have to get the piezo element out of the plastic buzzer casing. Be careful not to hurt yourself or the piezo element! I used a craft knife: very, very carefully.
You should be able to see that there are 2 separate areas on the element, so you'll have a positive and a negative to wire up (don't worry about which is which, we can find out by trial and error later).
Then cut the circular element in half (I just used common scissors) so you have 2 semi-circles, each with 2 separate areas within them. The reason I did that is 1) because one big element caused feedback to happen when I tried it that way, and 2) you'll have separate elements to cover the bass and treble strings, and get a better sound balance.
Start with one half of the element just to try things out.
Solder the shield or negative part of the wire to one part of the element and the positive part of the wire to the other. Don't hold the soldering iron onto the element for too long – you might damage it. Then solder the other end of your wire to the output jack connectors. Again, you'll hear it if you do it wrong, so just pick a connector to start with and solder it up. Now, to check if things are actually working, plug an instrument lead into the output jack and connect to it to an amplifier – TURN IT DOWN, do not have it up way loud or you may wreck yourself! Then hold the piezo element onto your banjo head, and pluck a string with your free hand and see if any sound is coming through. If not, you may have to switch the wires over on the output jack, or it might just be the way you're holding the piezo element that's shorting something out – try holding it with something non-conductive first before you go re-soldering stuff. Once you know you can get a sound allright, you'll need to plan how to fit the whole shebang. I have a resonator on my banjo so the output jack was able to just bolt onto the resonator ring. I did have to carve a small amount of wood out of the resonator bowl to accommodate the jack. If you don't want to do that you could always use a jack like this http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Jacks/Flush-mount_Output_Jack.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=298 and have the wire come right out of the resonator. (If you do it this way you'll have to disassemble your initial setup so you can poke the wire through, screw the resonator back onto the banjo, then re-solder the jack.)
I attached the elements to the underside of my banjo head so there's no ugly stuff on top of the banjo and also so I won't hit things while I'm playing, and break them. To attach the piezo elements to the banjo head, I used a hot glue gun. The extra benefit of this is it adds a bit of dampening, making the tone nicer. Also, the banjo puts out a lot of energy, so it needs a little dampening so it doesn't overload (see below for more on this). You don't want to overheat the banjo head in case it distorts or melts! So firstly, find out where you want to position the elements. To do this you'll need to repeat your initial experiment, but this time with both elements hooked up to the output jack. Solder both positive elements to one of the jack connectors, and both negatives to the other (whichever way round worked for you last time!) Then play around with different positions to see what sounds best. I found that putting the treble-side pickup just off the underside of the bridge, and the bass side element a little further away from the bridge at the top, gave the best balance. Bass strings move more and put out more energy, so that makes sense, yeah? (NOTE: Later on I found there was a little overloading still going on so I made an alteration without moving the pickups – see below. You have the chance to get it right first time, so you might try moving your elements a little further away from the bridge) Putting the elements too far away can lessen the output too much. Click on the photo to enlarge and you'll be able to make out the bridge feet to see my placement.

By this stage you should have a fair idea of what length of wire you'll need to reach from the piezo elements to the output jack. You don't want a lot of extra wire rattling around inside the instrument.
Once you have decided on your positioning, put some hot glue on the bottom of the piezo element and stick it on the banjo head. By putting the glue on the element rather than the head it gets a chance to cool just a little, so it shouldn't damage the head. DISCLAIMER yet again – if you're not sure about doing this and don't want to damage a precious instrument, DO NOT do this stuff yourself.
Once the elements are attached, and wired to the output jack, you can just screw it onto the resonator ring (or whatever arrangement you decide to go for) and you should be ready to play.
FINAL FIX for my overloading problem. I found that there was still a little overloading after I'd attached the elements and I didn't want to chance ruining everything by pulling the piezo elements off the head. So I carefully slid a piece of foam between the head and that big rod thing that runs through the middle of the instrument. That dampened the head a little, took away any distortion from the pickups, and actually gave the banjo a nice mellow tone when unamplified as well – bonus!

Here's what it looks like from the outside:

So there you go – you can decide if you want to buy a top-quality professional piezo pickup, but if you have an instrument that isn't too precious then you can easily try your hand at doing it yourself. Most times, the worst thing that could happen is you might ruin a banjo head, so it's not the end of the world, although in my case I also carved a little wood from the resonator, which I certainly DO NOT recommend if you have a nice instrument! But if you use the other kind of output jack you wouldn't have to do that at all, in fact that's how I did it first time round and it worked fine, without any damage to the banjo.
I've used it at quite a few gigs now and have been very happy with the sound, just plugging it directly into the PA system. No doubt my less-than-professional soldering will cause me grief one day, but I'll just have to grab a microphone and make do if that happens.
Happy tinkering!
Bing Turkby

Mykonos Calendar

Posted by Bing Turkby on 22 Jun 2010 04:57

Jim K. has gone through my holiday photos and put together a calendar. It features a whole lot of different kinds of 3-wheeled vehicles racing through the narrow whitewashed lanes of Mykonos – not your usual Greek Island calendar! Here’s the cover.

(Click to embiggen, as they say)
If you’d like a copy of the calendar they’ll be selling for NZ$15.00 + postage if you get them directly from me. You can contact me at:
TurkbyTone Rekkids HQ
PO Box 1813,
Palmerston North
Aotearoa.
Or email me at bingturkby at gmail dot com
Any money raised from the sale of the calendars will help get the next Turkby album made.
Speaking of which...

We're getting ready for Phase 2 of recording the new Turkby album. I recently discovered the ancient Sword of Xanthros in my back garden and it has given me magical powers, which have come in quite handy actually. I can now vacuum the stairs in less than 30 seconds, and cat fur doesn’t stick to my black trews. I cleft a few Gordian knots just to test the sword out and was very pleased with the results. It has also made my rhythm playing 26% tighter than before, and the beats on the recordings are just that little bit phatter than I remember from last time I listened…

PS. One of my favourite record company names is Secretly Canadian. I also enjoy seeing albums on the Spunk label because their catalogue numbers always start with URA. Clever stuff.

Newspaper article

Posted by Bing Turkby on 30 Apr 2010 04:33

We interrupt the banjo-related posts to tell you that the local paper has honoured us with a piece about the Ensemble, reflecting on the fact that the current lineup is in the studio and working on new things for you to listen to. Have a look at the article here. There's even a pretty photo of us in the Stomach's practice room.

Playing Irish tenor banjo

Posted by Bing Turkby on 29 Apr 2010 07:53

Here are a few tips gleaned from my experience of learning to play Irish tunes on a banjo. If you haven’t heard that kind of thing much, look for some tunes featuring Barney McKenna from the Dubliners, or Gerry O’Connor. Or at a pinch, listen to my trepidatious attempt at playing Tenpenny Bit here.


When I first heard the set of tunes called The Dubliners Fancy on the back of the Pogues/Dubliners Irish Rover 12” (remember those?) I decided straight away that one day I’d play that set on the banjo. That instrument propelled the tune rhythmically as well as carrying the melody. Or rather, when we talk about banjo, it’s more a case of grabbing the melody and throwing it at people, rather than just carrying it. The banjo has such a punchy sound, I reckon it must be the most ‘punk rock’ of all the acoustic instruments.


Types of banjo


Anyway, at that point I thought I could just walk into a shop and grab a banjo and start learning. I didn’t realise there are different kinds of banjo, so I thought Barney was using a 5-string one like Earl Scruggs. Nope, that’s a 4-string (tenor) banjo, I found out later.

There are even different models of tenor banjo. Eg. some have 17 frets and some have 19, some are open-back and some have a big wooden resonator bowl. Mine is a 19-fret Tanglewood with a resonator bowl. Doesn’t really matter, as far as I can tell they all do the job, just pick one that makes you look cool in a mirror.


So now I could go to a shop and ask for a 4-string tenor banjo and start learning, right? Nope, turns out that many tenor banjos aren’t set up for Irish-style playing straight off the bat. Well, not any that I could find anyway. Maybe a shop that specialises in folk instruments will have something for you off the shelf.

The tenor banjo that I bought was set up for use in something like a cool old trad jazz band, and it was tuned CGDA, but kick-arse Irish-tuned banjos are GDAE. So you need to tune your banjer a fifth higher. But you can’t just tune it up like that with the factory strings, because the tension is so much greater. You need some heavy Irish tenor banjo strings. I asked around and didn’t have much luck. So I ended up buying mine from Elderly Instruments in good ol’ Lansing, Missouri!

These 13-gauge John Pearse strings are specifically made for Irish tenor banjo. You can get 12s and 11s too, but I like these big suckas.

There’s not a lot of string-bending involved with Irish tunes, so heavy strings are fine, and they’re great for projection and tone.

For more information on various banjos, try this.

Tunes to play

Here’s a place to find some tunes to play: TheSession.org

You’ll soon see that there are usually 15 different versions of each tune, so if you want to play with other people, ask them to point you in the right direction before you spend a whole lot of time learning a different one!

If you’re like me, you’ll have to learn note-by-note and then internalise the tune, because I can’t read music all that fast. It helps if you’ve heard the tune somewhere first so you get the rhythm right. Reels are 4/4 time (boom-chick-boom-chick). Jigs are generally in 6/8 “double diddly time” (di-duh-ly, di-duh-ly). Slip jigs are 9/8 “triple diddly” (di-duh-ly, di-duh-ly, di-duh-ly).


This site is full of Irish banjo tips: Irish-banjo.com

In my next post I'll tell you how to make your own banjo pickup so you can play through a PA system!

Go Grayson go!

Posted by Bing Turkby on 22 Apr 2010 09:03

Jim Keltnenhausen was talking record label business to Roger Shepherd last night and Roger said that he'd just signed Grayson Gilmour to the newly revitalised Flying Nun label.
So the first new Nun signing is a Palmy boy! Well done everybody. Rumour is that Jim K. will be advising Shepherd and helping him to make Flying Nun at least as big as TurkbyTone Rekkids. Oh look, it's already worked!